Police and prison abolitionist, philosopher, and Black Lives Matter Chicago organizer Kofi Ademola sits down with our publisher, Mike Fourcher. In a broad-ranging discussion, Ademola describes his views on economic development, gentrification, prison, poverty, and violence–and responds to our interview with FOP President Dean Angelo, who suggested police are under attack and care more about black lives than black politicians.

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